New army for me!

[Col_Stone]

that is a very valid use of infiltrate, if you have 3-4 units with infiltrate you can make sure he won't know the best rout to attack, ruining his plans to no end=)

[Lemmings]

Agreed, I use infiltrate to place Stormtrooper plasma at key points of attack, because you can usually figure out beasty unit's combat routes (statured lords) by the time infiltration comes around.

[Rayne]

Statured Lords that i play against usually have speed, and are keen on getting into assault on the first turn. IG are well rumored to be very very squishy in CC.

[Wraithlord]

Indeed they are lol

[Col_Stone]

ws 4 guard are not as squishy tho.. a lot of difference to WS3 when every army and their uncles have ws4

[Rayne]

ws4 guard get points heavy, rather fast, because the doctrine is 10 points per squad.

[Col_Stone]

true.. it's only worth it if you're actually planning on playing up close to the enemy..

[Rayne]

Im going to be fighting LOTS of Chaos, so that really isnt an option, its a guarantee.

[Col_Stone]

then i suggest you try both with and without H.fighters, i've found it very valuable in keeping a couple of guardsmen alive to fight back (ie stand in the way for consolidatemoves )

[Rayne]

So far, ive changed my lists a little to use grenadiers as troops (to save points, and because its a better unit) and lots and lots of veterans. I almost all but abandoned my Command Platoon and instead are using nearly a full squad of Last Chancers, for the additional wargear and convienience of Sub-Units.